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Although this assertion is not an overarching conclusion about mixed-gender presence during this swim classes, given the evidence and when taking everything into consideration, the anecdotal stories by men who swam nude during that era that claim there were women and girls in the pool area is plausible in many cases.

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The APHA guidelines recommending nude male swimming remained in effect until filtration systems had so improved that the guideline was no longer necessary, with the official change occurring in However, the long held practice of nude male swimming had been around for well over a century.

Many public institutions did not want to invest money into providing and maintaining swimsuits for the boys, and news articles published during that era discuss the debates during school board meetings regarding the matter with the policy of continued nude male swimming being kept despite APHA rescinding the recommendation.

Evidence shows that the policy for nude male swimming continued throughout the s at many public schools. It should be noted that many of the news articles on our site come from Sheboygan, Wisconsin. The reason being is not that this one city was anomalous in swimming practices of boys, but that their main newspaper has been one of the most prolific in using optical character recognition "OCR" and making their digital database part of the free public domain you can read more about this on our "Process for Research" page.

Thus, search engines seem to love this particular newspaper and provides us a plethora of related hits.

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It also makes us wonder what is still out there in the oceans of inaccessible newspaper databases yet to be OCR digitized and made available absent paid subscription to that news source. Over time, we anticipate more and more articles and documented evidence to find their way onto our website, so please help us keep looking!

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So, given the wealth of information from the Sheboygan Press, the city's main newspaper, we focused on a number of articles that occurred over a span of several years featuring the "Learn to Swim" program sponsored by the Department of Public Recreation, an overarching municipal agency that encompassed all schools.

What was clearly evidenced is that all articles we found over the span of years searched required the boys to swim nude whereas the girls work tank suits supplied by the department. Such policies are also evidenced well in many articles concerning the YMCA "Learn to Swim" program as well.

And interestingly, we have found several instances where these same classes had female instructors teaching courses for boys while, yes, boys were to swim nude.

But again, if one wants to get a full, truthful understanding of all of this, they need to consider the era and culture surrounding this practice.

One only needs to read the syndicated columns of Dear Abby, Ann Landers and others that are presented on a dedicated page of this site to gain a better grasp of the culture during this period. There are a number of women writing Abby, Ann and others addressing a common practice of having the boys swim naked in backyard pools and lake houses around girls their same age, including instances where the boys were as old as In fact, one mother felt the boys should not be allowed to "keep their secrets" from the girls, meaning she felt the girls had a right to satiate their curiosity by viewing the boys' genitals thereby requiring the boys to be naked for that purpose.

But she also deemed the reverse as highly "inappropriate", and boys should not be allowed to "see the girls secrets".

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Granted, the desire to have boys always swim nude in the presence of girls was not typical of all mothers, but it certainly paints a cultural landscape wherein it would not have been out of the ordinary at the infrequent "family night" for the boys' swimming certifications that female siblings would have been allowed to watch the boys swim in the nude.

The following articles, when combined, leads us to believe that during the s through early s, there were in fact swimming programs whereby boys swam in the nude, and, females were granted entrance into the swim area to observe them as the did; however, it was more uncommon than common. This particular one indicates the swimming program is open to boys and girls from the fourth grade through the eighth grade, and specifically states: "Boys swim in the nude and are required to bring only a towel.

Girls swim in suits provided by the Department of Public Recreation. However, they must bring a towel.

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Girls must provide themselves with a bathing cap. Until well into the s, we never found any exception to this, nor was it ever indicated that on certain days boys would be allowed to wear suits; rather, for reasons stated elsewhere, boys were never furnished swimsuits and always expected to swim nude during those years.

It states: "All classes are free to the participating boy or girl, the only requirement being that girls must bring a bathing cap and towel for, the swimming classes and boys should bring a towel. The boys swim in the nude while the girls are furnished tank suits. Girls bring their own bathing caps and are supplied with suits for the morning workouts.

Due to this, this year they scheduled 14 half-hour courses each day; thus, when dividing up the students by age, it meant some classes would have up to 37 students, therefore requiring 4 instructors for each of the 14 classes that day.

The number of instructors per class is not inconsistent with that required at YMCA programs, which may have had as many as 7 instructors per each class when programs saw large enrollment as a general rule of thumb was when students cannot swim, about one instructor 5 students is optimal articles evidencing this are on file but not presented.

The article presented here states: "Although 25 per class is considered ideal for most programs of this type, public demand has been so great that the classes this year range in number from 27 to By careful planning every child who signed up in school could be fitted into the crowded schedule this term.

Finally, the following passage is illuminating:. Much credit is due the four instructors - Lester M. Wilke, Henry Tink Rilling, Mrs. Fay Tiaas and William Schildbach - who not only teach the child swimming fundamentals, but help him achieve personal security and poise by mastering his own fears of the water.

The above article clearly states that a female instructor was present teaching the boys swimming classes, who we know were all nude and as old as Tiaas was also identified teaching these swimming classes in other years as well. Finally, it also indicates that the last day of classes were open to the parents to come watch the boys and girls swim.

Because the department never furnished swimsuits to boys, it is questionable which boys would opt to bring suits with them, and which would swim nude despite a mix-gender audience watching.

As with all others, it states: "Swimming suits are furnished to girl swimmers. Swimming suits are not required for boys. This particular year boys and girls were not separated by time of day but instead different months of the year. Thus, in November through February, only boys used the pool, and girls then used it after February. It states that: "Afternoon swimming classes have been scheduled for junior high school students.

However, if boys and girls are unable participate in recreational swimming during the morning sessions, they are privileged to attend at that time. swimming class scheduled for boys November I7 to February 16 is specifically designed as a beginners' swimming class and a period to test boys to pass the swimmers' test.

Starting February 23, this class will be scheduled as a girls' beginner swimming class. When reviewing the list of instructors that year, it states the following:. The afternoon swimming program is under the supervision of Lloyd Melners and Miss Evelyn Horn.

Fitting all the facts presented in this article, one can only come to the conclusion that " Miss Evelyn Horn" taught afternoon classes wherein junior high school boys attended those classes naked while under her instruction. The article here states: "Participants will be required to furnish their own towels. Girls will be required to wear bathing caps; suits will be furnished.

Boys are not required to wear bathing suits. Maradel is again mentioned, and, it also reminds parents that only girls, but not boys are supplied swimsuits, although boys are to bring towels.

In addition, the "Red Cross testing" that is mentioned as part of the program was done by representatives of the Red Cross, who were routinely females as evidenced in other articles.

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But also interesting in this article is the congratulatory remarks the Sheboygan Press throws at the Department of Public Recreation by discussing how many families came to watch the swimmers: "That it [Department] has the approval and support of parents over the community is evidenced in the crowds of mothers and fathers- in all-who filled the pool balcony to capacity throughout the day Saturday, June 22, when the novices demonstrated their prowess for proud families.

This lends at least some corroboration to many of the stories we have read on forums and discussion groups whereby writers contend that when they were boys, they recall parents' nights and remember embarrassment as they entered the pool area naked only to see girls their age they knew from school watching them.

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In this October 7, Waukesha Daily Freeman article, it once again provides that although both boys and girls should bring towels, only girls would be given swimsuits. However, it's interesting to note that the qualified Red Cross instructors included " Miss Marjorie Stephen, Miss Kitty Harder, and high school assistants. Although the article does not address the makeup of the "spectators", other articles found for that period indicate how the Public Schools Athletic League still in existence swimming events would see families attending and crowds over 1, although they do not discuss nudity with the same specificity as does this one.

The swim competition were shown to be organized by the boys' weight, not age, and although it was identified as a competition for "elementary" schools, weight classes went up to lbs.

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Those weight classes would indicate boys up to high school years in age competed. Due to the mixed-gender audience, the older boys apparently wore swim trunks.

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However, it was not the case for the younger boys, as stated: "The athletic prowess of the very small boys in the eighty-pound championship was of less moment to the spectators than the enthusiasm of the youngsters, who discovered in their trial heats that their swimming trunks impeded them, and that they could swim faster nude.

Thereafter the rule about trunks went into the discard, and very small boys in a state of nature swam like tadpoles through the many heats necessary to a decision Today, the average weight of an year-old is about 76 pounds, and for year-olds its about 83 lbs. However, average weights of children today in the U. are higher skewed by childhood obesity.

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Further, these were athletic boys and thus probably weighed less than the average weight of boys their age. Hence, we're guessing these "very small" boys ranged from 11 to 12, and possibly 13 years in age.

April 18, Wisconson State Journal - YMCA Swimming Classes click on image to enlarge for reading Evidence of mixed-gender audiences watching nude boys swim can also be found in this Wisconsin State Journal article.

In the article, Mayor Law applauded the YMCA's swim classes for boys, which indicates they were for males between the ages of 10 and The article states the policy typical for almost all YMCA's :"All boys registered for instruction are requested to bring their own towels to each of the classes.

Swimming trunks or suits will not be used. Parents are invited to attend the special exhibition period Saturday afternoon, April Boys will be awarded YMCA buttons and certificates if they pass a standardized YMCA swimming test at that time. June 8, Lincoln Sunday Journal and Star click on image to enlarge for reading The following is another article that evidences families were allowed to come and watch boys' swim meets at the YMCA.

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The age group was again between 10 and high school. The coupon in the newspaper states: "Do NOT bring your own suit", thus reinforcing that all boys must swim in the nude. Following this, the coupon states: "Tests will be given at the end of instruction and an award given to each who passes the examination. Parents may attend final exercises".

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From the blogs and forums, there is a significant number of men that grew up during this period and contend that they remember taking swimming instructions during their boyhood and up through early teens whereby they attended the class completely nude, and, their instructors were female. Although many may be dismissed as tall-tales, the evidence found throughout this site, including documented letters written by women and published in newspapers, leads the creators of this website to conclude that there were indeed many situations where it was both accepted and expected that unlike girls, boys would participate in swimming completely nude with the opposite gender present.

June 8, Waterloo, Iowa Courier click on image to enlarge for reading YMCA programs wherein boys swam nude while also having parents nights for families to come and watch can also be found in this Iowa paper. Interestingly, this program offered swim classes for boys up through and including high school.

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The article has a coupon that can be clipped out and used to enroll the boys into the program. It states: "The climax of our Summer Swim Program gives the parents a chance to see what their boy has learned by attending one of several "Parents Night Swimming Demonstration" held at the YMCA. The coupon presented here was found in other cities during this same time period as well; thus, we believe it probably emanated from the national council.

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This would mean that although it may not have been a universal requirement, males attending classes completely nude was most common for the majority of YMCAs. Some did indeed allow suits whereas others made male nudity when in the pools mandatory. This is born out by the videos presented as well as the plethora of articles and editorials that discuss this practice easily found by any web search.

June 6, Utica Observer Dispatch click on image to enlarge for reading As evidenced by the many advertisements and news articles throughout the early 20th century, the YMCA Learn-to-Swim programs concluded with the boys having their final class followed by swimming demonstrations wherein they earned certificates if they successfully passed a series of tests.

As revealed in the articles on this page as well as those published throughout the earlier decades, it was standard for parents and families to attend the final class to watch the boys earn their certificates.

Also as evidenced in the many publications during the period, the swim instructors always wore swimsuits as they rarely got in the pool. There are many anecdotal accounts from men that grew up during those decades that the nudity requirement was consistent throughout the program, including the final class when families were invited to watch.

Such a requirement would be consistent with the published YMCA requirements. However, news reports and articles that specifically evidence that the boys were naked during the course certification when families were present are extremely rare, probably because reporting the nudity was inessential at the time.

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